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Featured Guest: CHARLES WALLERT
In the world of music production, few names carry the weight and historical significance of Charles Wallert. Known affectionately as "The Singer's Producer," Wallert has spent decades crafting hits for legendary artists like Dionne Warwick, George Benson, and O.C. Smith. Recently, on a special segment hosted by songwriter and radio host Dean Olson, Wallert shared the incredible journey of his life, a story that weaves through the streets of Brooklyn, the bright lights of Las Vegas, and the high-stakes world of professional sports.
Whether you are an aspiring songwriter or a fan of music history, Wallert’s experiences offer a masterclass in following your passion and recognizing the pivotal moments that define a career. From being told he should be a producer by Phil Spector to his current work with the Philadelphia Eagles, Wallert’s story is a testament to the power of "faith, hope, and encouragement."
The Brooklyn Roots: A Prodigy in the Making
The story begins in Brooklyn, New York, a place Wallert describes as "storied" and influential. His musical inclinations appeared almost before he could walk. By the age of 22 months, he was already imitating the expressive performance style of Johnny Ray. His mother would take him to local ice cream parlors where, perched on a table next to the jukebox, he would perform for teenage girls who kept feeding nickels into the machine just to see him act out the songs.
By age five, Wallert was playing the guitar and reading music fluently, notably, he learned to read musical notation before he could even read English. While he briefly explored acting through a scholarship, he quickly realized that his heart belonged to music. "Being in music, I could be me," Wallert explained to Olson. "To be somebody else all the time... that’s what actors do. I preferred being myself."
The Magic of the Number 14
During the interview, a fun recurring theme emerged: the number 14. Wallert considers it his lucky number for several reasons:
There are 14 letters in his name.
He was born on the 14th.
His daughters were born 14 months apart.
It was his jersey number when he played football.
While 14 is his lucky number, he joked that when it comes to the music charts, "Number 1" is always his favorite position.
From the Gridiron to the Bachelors 3
Before he was a legendary producer, Wallert had a different dream: professional football. Growing up, he discovered a natural talent for throwing a football, which led him to a camp mentored by the legendary Hank Stram, coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. This connection eventually led to a lifelong friendship with one of the greatest icons in sports history, Joe Namath.
Wallert became deeply involved in Namath’s world, specifically at the world-famous Bachelors 3 club. He traveled extensively with Namath, even during the height of the quarterback's fame and occasional controversy. It was during this period that Wallert found himself at the intersection of sports and entertainment, a crossroads that would eventually lead him back to his musical roots.
A Life-Changing Encounter with Elvis and Phil Spector
One of the most captivating stories Wallert shared involves the King of Rock and Roll, Elvis Presley. While in Las Vegas, Joe Namath arranged for Wallert to see Elvis perform. The experience was more than just a concert; Elvis personally greeted Wallert from the stage and invited him backstage for a private conversation in his suite.
Upon returning from Vegas to a restaurant on the Sunset Strip, Wallert sat down with Namath and a "little guy at the end of the table all in black." That man was Phil Spector. After engaging in a deep, technical conversation about background voices and string arrangements, Spector looked at Wallert and said something that would change his life forever:
"Young man, I have never said this to anybody before, but I’m going to tell you this: If nobody’s ever told you before, you should be a record producer."
Coming from the man who created the "Wall of Sound," Wallert took the advice to heart. He soon transitioned from club management into full-time music production, falling in love with the "Sound of Philadelphia" and the legendary Gamble and Huff productions.
Building a Legacy: O.C. Smith and RSO Records
Wallert’s career as a producer took off when he became the first independent producer signed to RSO Records during the height of the Saturday Night Fever phenomenon. His work with the group The Rock even caught the attention of Michael Jackson, who reportedly drew inspiration from their dance moves and sound for his hit "Rock With You."
However, Wallert identifies his work with O.C. Smith as a pivotal turning point. His ability to draw unique performances out of artists caught the ear of Tom Bell and later George Benson. This success paved the way for collaborations with Dionne Warwick and many others, cementing his reputation as a producer who truly understood the soul of a singer.
Current Projects: September in the Park and the Eagles Anthem
Even with a lifetime of achievements behind him, Wallert isn't slowing down. He is currently working on two major projects:
September in the Park: An Atlanta-based band featuring lead singer Ian (a fellow Brooklynite). Their song "Brenda," written and produced by Wallert, is currently climbing the East Coast Beach music charts.
The Philadelphia Eagles Fan Anthem: Combining his love for sports and music, Wallert is producing a project that captures the spirit of the city of Philadelphia and its passionate football fans.
Key Takeaways for Songwriters and Artists
Based on the conversation between Dean Olson and Charles Wallert, here are a few actionable insights for those in the music industry:
Listen to the Experts: Wallert’s career shifted because he took the advice of someone who saw potential in him (Phil Spector). Don't be afraid to pivot when a mentor identifies a strength you haven't fully explored.
Authenticity is Key: Wallert chose music over acting because it allowed him to be himself. Success in the arts often comes from a place of genuine self-expression.
Build Relationships: From Joe Namath to George Benson, Wallert’s career was built on genuine friendships and mutual respect. Networking isn't just about business; it's about building a community.
Give Back: As a long-tenured voting member of the Grammys, Wallert now focuses much of his energy on mentoring the next generation. Success is more meaningful when you help others climb the ladder behind you.
Conclusion
Charles Wallert’s journey from a guitar-playing kid in Brooklyn to a legendary producer is a reminder that the path to success is rarely a straight line. It’s a blend of talent, timing, and the courage to say "yes" when opportunity knocks, whether that opportunity comes from a football coach or a legendary record producer. As he continues to influence the charts and mentor young artists, Wallert remains a shining example of what it means to stay "musically fit" and dedicated to the craft.
As Dean Olson wrapped up the interview, it was clear that Wallert’s story is far from over. With new hits on the horizon and a commitment to the future of music, "The Singer's Producer" continues to leave an indelible mark on the industry.
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